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Tsiiki
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|  Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 12:26 pm?? ?Post subject: I absolutely abhor exercise... tips? |  |
| | I'm not too far gone yet weight wise, but I'm heading there. Just calculated my body fat and at 35% which isn't good, and BMI is borderline overweight. So I know I *should* get fit, I just can't stand it!!!!!
I can't stand being out of breath and gasping for air (happens very very fast even after working out for months, actually think I have exercise induced asthma which would be useful to get checked out)
I can't stand the pain when your muscles are struggling
or the weakness from being so tired
But worse of all, I absolutely cannot handle the muscle soreness afterwords.
This has been an issue all my life, and since you guys are fellow aspies, and more prone to hypersensitiveness I was wondering if there was any tips to get around this stuff.
I'm a lazy brat so forcing myself out there is going to be REALLY REALLY HARD. And likely will give up. :X
I would force myself every semester while in college to take 1-2 gym courses just to get some sort of physical activity in.
I have taken karate, fitness walking, fencing, archery, rock climbing, on my own I've also done a lot of badminton (work), jump rope, running, weight lifting, rowing machine, tredmill, etc. I'm a fairly good swimmer too.... laser tag is a huge workout too I've discovered.
I'm competitive beyond belief and that is the sole thing that gets me through any of it, running? Find someone faster and chase after, must win!
Unfortunately I can't handle "going slow." Doing x activity for y minutes... always feel a need to go faster faster faster, see how fast I can get this done, or must lift this weight 10x so lift as fast as possible, even though I know that you're supposed to do slow, I just can't stand the activity so much I want it done asap.
So I'm at a loss. I have done all those activities, and while some are fun, the drawbacks of them make me unable to force myself to continue.
There really are few things in this world I hate more than exercise... (oh yeah, to make things worse I have serious RLS pain happen after I run (happens on its own as well but rarely anymore, but always when I run))
What is a good way for me to get even a little more fit? Small things like parking father away and walking in I can do (though often forget), but what else?
If it is an activity it's likely going to have to be competitive...
I want to learn martial arts, but the countless reps were driving me insane in karate, is there one that is more bout oriented and can actually work to "defeat" someone and "win" more often? Fencing had a lot more bouts than my karate class ever did, so considering that.
How do I keep myself to keep going and doing it?
And for the love of god, how the hell do I stop feeling so shitty!?!!!
I've taken advil/motrin, I've tried hot baths, cold showers, stretching before, stretching after, stretching day after, etc and can't seem to get rid of it or tolerate it (last week I had moved a 100lb and 50lb bed and frame myself 3x that day, the next 6 days were hell. The day after was so bad I went home early from work and went straight to sleep to sleep through it x.x) |
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| | Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 1:45 pm?? ?Post subject: Re: I absolutely abhor exercise... tips? | |
| | Tsiiki wrote: |
I can't stand being out of breath and gasping for air (happens very very fast even after working out for months, actually think I have exercise induced asthma which would be useful to get checked out)
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There are many ways to excercise. I have asthma and I also struggle with my hand-to-eye coordination because of my Asperger's syndrome. It didn't stop me from getting to a 300 lb bench press in just a year.
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I can't stand the pain when your muscles are struggling
or the weakness from being so tired
But worse of all, I absolutely cannot handle the muscle soreness afterwords.
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Your first exercises are going to be that way. If the problem persists, it means that you're not eating enough protein. Contrary to popular belief spred by envious pseudointellectuals, bread and butter won't give you nearly enough protein to actually get any results.
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I'm a lazy brat so forcing myself out there is going to be REALLY REALLY HARD. And likely will give up. :X
I would force myself every semester while in college to take 1-2 gym courses just to get some sort of physical activity in.
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Get a structured exercise routine. F*cking around with randomly selected exercises on randomly selected days with a randomly selected level of intensity will get you nowhere.  | Quote: |
And for the love of god, how the hell do I stop feeling so shitty!?!!!
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Protein shakes are a good start. |
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| | Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:03 pm?? ?Post subject: | |
| | With running, a walk/run routine is more efficient than steady jogging. Walk a ways, sprint from point to point, then walk again. It won't take long before you find that you're sprinting faster and walking further.
With exercise in general, what stopped me for a long time was fear. Fear of trying to do something, like 20 good push-ups, and failing. You almost have to forgive yourself first before you start any program, because you have to be your own cheerleader, not your own critic. Remember, exercise, no matter how short or easy, is always worth it. Don't tell yourself that if you don't spend at least 2 hours non stop at the gym it isn't worth going. Even if you just do 10 push-ups and call it a day, do them.
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| | | Back to top | | Tsiiki
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| | Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:45 pm?? ?Post subject: | |
| The protein tip is good, I would do semester long batches so know that it isn't just the starting sorenesses
Like the semester I took fencing I would do fencing 2-3x a week and another 2-3x a week of running, weight lifting, and rowing machine... was in pain that entire semester and just hated life even more.
Structure may help a little, but I'm notorious for giving up things and not sticking to them... only reason managed the previous years was because grades were dependant on going to class :X
And yeah I do "run/walk"... because walking is too boring and running too tiring, so it's sprint, then walk until can breath again, then sprint, etc... XD
And yes, I agree with the mental thing, and yes drink a lot of water actually and no to other person, I don't eat well either... planning on trying to sneak a little more health in, but these are both mutually difficult things :X
Also, curious, thought came while reading one of your articles about hardwired to hate it:
Asthma means you aren't getting enough oxygen to your cells basically, right? I assumed that it could be because I'm borderline anemic, but took iron suppliments (w/ vitamin c to absorb better) in attempt to stave off RLS pain (failed attempt, but tried nevertheless). I didn't find it helped my perceived death by gasping fish syndrome, but if it was asthma and not getting enough oxygen... could lack of oxygen while working out lead to increased muscle soreness? |
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| | Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:48 pm?? ?Post subject: | |
| | A balanced diet can improve your mental state.
Cycling is better than running in my opinion, less impact on the leg joints.
With martial arts finding the right class or teacher can make a massive difference. Most Karate styles are fairly rigid in structure. Different arts will incorporate sparing into the classes earlier, you just need to try some out. The best class I attended was Tai Chi, due to the teacher, half the time spent in contact exercises. All styles do require time and effort to study the set forms though, you can expect to improve without the fundamentals. |
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| | Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:55 pm?? ?Post subject: | |
| | Oh yeah, I completely forgot
The reason I think I have the asthma thing is because (and I know this is a clear sign of trying too hard) I will get to the point where my hearing gets duller until can't hear at all and...will continue until I lose all color vision ^^;;; This has been happening on/off since middle school, and wasn't nearly as lazy then as I am now (and better diet and fitness/bodyfat too was actually underweight when started college, oh how things have gone down hill)
Just frustrating when people (appear, obviously not since the state I'm in) are worse off than you and can keep going and you're about to pass out XD |
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| | Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:57 pm?? ?Post subject: | |
| | Tsiiki wrote: | | And yes, I agree with the mental thing, and yes drink a lot of water actually and no to other person, I don't eat well either... planning on trying to sneak a little more health in, but these are both mutually difficult things :X |
OK, so addressing the impatience aspect is part of your exercise program. Impatience management. I can say I know something about that!  | Quote: | | Also, curious, thought came while reading one of your articles about hardwired to hate it:
Asthma means you aren't getting enough oxygen to your cells basically, right? I assumed that it could be because I'm borderline anemic, but took iron suppliments (w/ vitamin c to absorb better) in attempt to stave off RLS pain (failed attempt, but tried nevertheless). I didn't find it helped my perceived death by gasping fish syndrome, but if it was asthma and not getting enough oxygen... could lack of oxygen while working out lead to increased muscle soreness? |
Pretty sure it does. My memory is vague here, but when the body goes into anaerobic mode during exercise, muscle tissue gets broken down & lactic acid & other toxins increase, causing muscle soreness. So because of your reduced lung capacity, you may go over the oxygen threshold much sooner than average.
You might also have some dietary inflammatory stuff happening...are you celiac & not watching what you eat very carefully? Or other dietary autoimmune issues? |
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| | Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:17 pm?? ?Post subject: | |
| | Yes try Aikido if you have a class local, try anything until you find the right thing.
Karate is great if you are going to devote your life to it.
Have you spoken to a doctor about the asthma and anemia? Any blood tests? |
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| | Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:42 pm?? ?Post subject: | |
| Anemia has come up w/ me and the doctors which is why I tried iron supplements, asthma has not... *mumbles* needa find new doctor, last one tried sending me to a mental hospital /grudge (depression, badly, which is reason I care more about exercising for weight rather than just dieting, because it's *supposed* to be good for you)
| Quote: | OK, so addressing the impatience aspect is part of your exercise program. Impatience management. I can say I know something about that!
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Like what?
And I just eat a lot of crappy foods... mutual love for each other and all, not allergic to anything though intense distaste to many  or not eat, often too tired/lazy to eat after work, so its often an (unhealthy) snack or nothing
Sounds like the quickest "fix" to being able to tolerate this stuff is seeing dr... if I can simply breathe may be able to tolerate the soreness *tries convincing herself things really will get better* |
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| | Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:53 pm?? ?Post subject: | |
| | Tsiiki wrote: |
| Quote: | OK, so addressing the impatience aspect is part of your exercise program. Impatience management. I can say I know something about that!
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Like what? |
I meditate--there are various kinds: walking, standing, sitting & lying down--& I really feel the repeated letting go of the thought & returning to the breath is basically a patience practice. Not to mention all the marvelous health benefits they keep finding. I could give you some basic instruction if you like or answer questions you might have.
Find a healthy thing & do it. For me a protein shake or smoothie would work. Quick, easy, & can be a real powerhouse of nutrition. Also, assume you're not getting enough sunlight & get your Vit. D levels tested. Strong evidence linking low levels w/depression, etc.
| Quote: | | Sounds like the quickest "fix" to being able to tolerate this stuff is seeing dr... if I can simply breathe may be able to tolerate the soreness *tries convincing herself things really will get better* |
I see this as another try at quick when slow & steady wins the race for you. It's about avoiding pain, making the exercise pleasurable, fun. For you, I think the old adage "No pain, no gain" is a sinker. Assume pain is telling you that you got it WRONG for you. That adage is for people who have a higher pain tolerance or stronger endorphin releases or something. Not for you, I'm thinking.
Or me. If it's fun, I'll do it. If it's not fun, I won't. Simple as that.  |
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